Nicolas de Lenfent

“If goodness does exist,” he said, “then I’m the opposite of it. I’m evil and I revel in it. I thumb my nose at goodness.”

– Anne Rice, The Vampire Lestat

Nicolas de Lenfent is the son of a draper, he is middle-class (thus wealthier than Lestat) and educated (another thing in his favour over his friend). Beyond this, Nicki has been out of the village, he has been to Paris, and this, combined with the fact that Nicki is in disgrace just as Lestat is, urges Lestat to initially befriend him. Their commonalities seem to outweigh any differences they have with one another, at first. Nicolas is enamoured with Lestat who has been near to death, fighting the wolves, battling alone as he clung to the hope of life, but Lestat sees his time with the wolves as an incident which changed him, made him darker – perhaps this darkness, which we are already starting to see as so prevalent in Nicki, is what draws him closer.

Lestat, on the other hand, sees Nicki as something sublime amidst the depressive atmosphere of his home, a creator of beauty with his violin, and a worldly, travelled young man. And Nicki sees this part of himself as a rebellion against his family, his morals, and ‘goodness.’ A rebellion which he cannot control. He believes himself to be making that which is bad or evil with his music, not the purity of soul that Lestat believes his music to be. Early on, at this point already, Nicki balks against Lestat’s opinion that evil and goodness are merely the creations of mankind. And he cannot understand how his friend does not hold to the Christian values instilled in both of them as children.

When the two run away to Paris, it is Nicolas’s hope, though he keeps it tight to his chest, that they will meet with ruin. He almost imagines that this is what he deserves; poverty, misery, and starvation. He and his closest companion who have chosen to live a godless life, disowned by their families. He, in no way, intends to make this misery apparent to Lestat, but regardless, his friend has begun to see the darkness in him, which cannot be illuminated, despite the beauty of Paris and the miracle of having escaped their home. Nicki does not tell Lestat why his dissatisfaction prevails, but it becomes apparent that the more successful Lestat becomes the deeper into despair Nicki slips.

“The is the witches’ place! Lestat, do you hear me! This is the witches’ place!”

– Anne Rice, The Vampire Lestat

It would appear that, in the hopelessness of his own mind, Nicolas grows to be bitter of what Lestat achieves. He does not see that he has skill and talent, or that his music makes the crowd at Renaud’s still in a manner that the actors’ performances never could. What he does see is that Lestat is becoming brighter and in the shadow of his light Nicolas withers. His secret hope that he would be proven right, that they will not succeed because they are both doomed to failure by their behaviour, is starting to appear more and more unlikely. On the wings of his burgeoning depression, he even begins to lose his faith in the existence of good and evil. Albeit briefly. He claims that there is only good and bad art. This is short-lived however, when Lestat is ripped from their bed in the night, out the window, and over the Paris rooftops, screaming his name.

His faith is further affirmed in the cruellest fashion when he discovers some months later – after much drinking and theorising on what occurred that night – that Lestat has been living evidence of something greater than the misery he is feeling, something which virtually verifies (in his mind) the existence of true evil. In all fairness, Nicki’s first experience of vampirism is brief as Lestat terrorises Renaud’s theatre with a gaudy display of his abilities. But when he is fully forced to face it, he is kidnapped and tortured by the Children of Darkness, those in adamant belief of their own dedication to the service of Satan.

Lestat makes a horrendous error in giving in to Nicki’s demands, giving him what he wants, the thing that will allow him to be the living proof of the evil he always believed existed and provoked him to make beautiful music. When Nicolas becomes a vampire, he becomes a monster. At first he refuses to speak or react in any form other than to sustain himself. But when Lestat puts a violin in his hands, Nicki begins to play with a renewed fervour and speaks for the first time. What he has to say is enough to cripple Lestat, who already cannot stand his company by this point – in fact, from the second he was made a vampire. It is evident that Nicolas hates his maker, that he hates the sparkle of Lestat’s personality, the fact that Lestat seems to get whatsoever he desires, and that Lestat allowed him to wallow in misery for so long.

“‘All a misunderstanding, my love,’ he said. Acid on the tongue. ‘It was to hurt others, don’t you see, the violin playing, to anger them, to secure for me an island where they could not rule. They would watch my ruin, unable to do anything about it.'”

– Anne Rice, The Vampire Lestat

It is clear to everyone that Nicki has lost his mind and that the two will never be able to stand one another’s company again. He remains in Paris while Lestat takes his mother and leaves, and becomes the playwright for the Theatre of the Vampires, driving them to ever greater heights of madness and beauty, all in the name of, what Nicolas sees as, the glory of evil.

Nicki was doomed from the moment he subconsciously decided that his and Lestat’s escape to Paris would be their downfall. He did not allow for the possibility of success and thus, when it did occur, he refused to see his own. He saw only Lestat’s and this drove him further into despair. The more his companion succeeded and ascended, the further he fell to his own sorrow. And, as Lestat has a thoroughly expansive personality, Nicki had a long way to fall.

Nicki’s end is only documented in a letter sent to Lestat by Armand. It is not mentioned in later novels, nor is it brought up after that point, other than in Lestat’s reminiscence in the company of Louis who he claims is Nicolas’s double in his beliefs, his cynicism. It might give some validity to the air of dissatisfaction between Lestat and Louis, if one considers that Louis was only ever intended to fill the chasm left by Nicolas.

Nicolas de Lenfent is the Moon to Lestat’s Sun. He is drawn to Lestat as everyone else is, drowning in his companion’s exuberance, his motivation to live even the most miserable of existences just to be a part of the beauty happening around him. But in comparison with Lestat, he is an opposing force. As Lestat rises so does Nicki sink. And as Lestat affirms himself as a monster, verifying his place in the world as a new type of ‘haunt,’ Nicolas reverts to old worship and mannerisms. Even their appearances stand in utter contrast with one another.

Where Lestat aspires to thrive anywhere, knowing he will dominate just by being the force that is himself, Nicolas fought just to keep himself from drowning. If Armand’s letter to Lestat was, in fact, the truth, it is clear that he lost the fight. Though what he was fighting was never the external, despite the horrors he may have endured. Nicolas’s most cruel enemy was always himself.

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  • Reply Devika Fernando April 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    This is PERFECT. Enough said! 🙂

    • Reply Lafaeyette April 21, 2013 at 12:17 pm

      Thank you, Devika. Your comments always make me smile 🙂

      • Reply Devika Fernando April 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm

        I should be the one thanking you because your character portrays seem to straight take things out of my own mind and put it into words. You write about what I have known deep down but not acknowledged in considerate thought or words. You rekindle my love for Anne’s Vampire Chronicles in that you draw out even the “smallest” of characters and make them come to life, you take the many small puzzle pieces that Anne has put in her different novels and turn them into the whole splendid picture as surely she would have loved us to do it. *thumbs up and thank you* 🙂

        • Reply Lafaeyette April 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm

          I really appreciate you saying this, Devika.

    • Reply Kevin Champion Easter May 15, 2013 at 5:42 am

      I thought Nicholas was imprisoned and his hands were cut off so he couldn’t play his violin anymore

      • Reply Carmen Dominique May 15, 2013 at 8:31 am

        Yes. He was spiralling out of control and, as a punishment and an attempt to stop him from wildly playing himself further into madness, Armand took his hands.

  • Reply anguished evangeline February 14, 2014 at 5:33 am

    Actually he is also mentioned in Memnoch. It is stated Lestat did not find him in heaven nor hell. Why do you think that is?

    • Reply Carmen Dominique February 14, 2014 at 8:12 am

      Well, I would guess that it is either a very strong case for the notion that Lestat was not, in fact, in either heaven, or in hell – in which instance, it would seem that what he saw was, in fact, a creation of his own mind, and his inherent desire to disbelieve Niki’s death was reflected in that. On the other hand, it may be an indication that vampire souls do not make it to the afterlife. Or perhaps that is what Lestat has led himself to believe.
      Alternatively, one could consider the notion that Lestat never truly received proof of Niki’s demise. For all he knows, his fledgling may still be alive and well (in form if not in mental stability), somewhere in the world.

      • Reply anguished evangeline February 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm

        What do you mean disbelieve his death? I feel like he must have had a reason to believe strong enough that he mourned, right? Maybe he read the memories of other vampires and saw what they saw of him killing himself.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique February 26, 2014 at 7:09 am

          I mean that when a person grieves, they do their utmost to try and find possibilities of an error. That the person is not really did. Particularly subconsciously. Also, and I may be wrong, but there is no instance in the novels where Lestat picks up on images of Nicholas’ death from anyone else’s mind, so…. That was either an oversight not meant to be looked into too deeply, or it was deliberate.
          These are all possibilities, I am throwing out, mind you.

          • anguished evangeline February 27, 2014 at 4:13 am

            You are right that may be so. I have asked Anne but she won’t even comment on this character. Seems like she wanted to put him to rest. 🙁 I would LOVE a short story on the fate of his soul.

          • anguished evangeline February 28, 2014 at 5:46 am

            What about reincarnation! That would be an interesting story! I think Armand was cruel to him, Lestat should not left Nicolas with him.

          • rozy March 10, 2014 at 9:48 pm

            What are some other theories you have on this character?

          • Carmen Dominique March 10, 2014 at 9:51 pm

            Oh! I see my previous messages failed to save. Pity. Well, I always felt very sorry for Nicholas. but I also found him to be highly antagonistic, which I did not like. I was sympathetic with him that he was the one always in the shadows while Lestat soaked in the light of admiration. When Lestat said that he now could not stand to be near Nicki, I’ll be honest with you, I hated him a little then. I felt keenly for the character. I think, yes, Armand may have been cruel, but I also imagine that Nicholas could goad the devil himself.

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        Also you say it could be that he wanted to disbelieve his death and while that may not be true he seemed to desperately want him to be in heaven. I think disbelieving usually happens at first but after you have had centuries to accept a death it is accepted. He has certainly grieved. Anyways thanks for your great insightful post on this underrated character!

        • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 9:57 pm

          I meant may be true not “may not”.

          • Carmen Dominique March 10, 2014 at 10:00 pm

            Thanks Rozy 🙂

            I will tell you one thing… I believe vampires to be, like most people, prone to being stubborn, set in their ways. Vampires are creatures frozen, trapped in time. And Lestat bends the world to what he wants it to be. I think, he had a lot of guilt over his dear Nicholas. I think he resented his own actions, and I think he would give anything for Nicki not to be dead.

  • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Great responses! Yes it was very sad when Lestat made someone who was obviously very disturbed and dark inside and then couldn’t stand him even using the word “revolted” that is really harsh about someone you loved.

    I searched the chronicles other than Lestat, you can do that but going on google books and you can search for a term so search for “Nicolas” or “Niki”, he mentioned a bit and it seems Nicolas had a profound effect on Lestat’s soul. In the later books he is referred to as beloved, “my beloved Nicolas”.

    Also, the scene where he turns Nicolas into a vampire, Lestat seems absolutely overwhelmed and horrified by the darkness yet soon after he says the darkness in Armand is worse, because he has been living with it for 3 centuries. That did not make sense because despite that Armand has a dark past Lestat will never know Armand or how he is effected as much as he knows his own vampire child. You know what I mean? I don’t see how he could know Armand well enough to know if the darkness was as bad as Nicolas’ because everyone is effected by trauma differently. Armand seemed to have pure wickedness despite his deceptively innocent looks which Nicolas really did not.

    Did you get the feeling Lestat was glossing over that Nicolas was ugly, average or not conventionally attractive or am I the only one that noticed that?

    It is amazing how some people are so intensely darkened by trauma that other people can let roll off them. For instance I was driving yesterday and saw a contorted man, the fire fighters were there to help him but he was not moving. He was maybe dead because no one naturally has their back in the air in such a position. My dad works labour type jobs (currently a construction worker) so I just thought “I hope that guy is okay! That could have been Dad!” Sorry for the personal anecdote. I actually dealt with seeing that quite well, I was the only one that saw his body and I even kept my mom calm so we would be safe.

    What do you think Nicolas would think of this modern age if he were still in existence?

    Do you think maybe that is why Nicolas and Lestat clashed because they are both antagonistic? Or maybe Lestat learned it from Nicolas like he learned his fondness of the violin.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 10, 2014 at 10:30 pm

      Yes, Lestat certainly was completely thrown by Nicolas. I think he loved him most of all. Even Louis felt like his replacement for his one-time lover. So similar to him in appearance and harboring a similar darkness.

      I think Lestat could not experience Armand’s darkness in the same way he had experienced Nicki’s. I mean, the change is so intimate, so personal, but, I think it was the closest he could come to understanding it. Through the eyes of another, older vampire. And really, if we compare their stories, both Nicki and Armand were broken and forced into darkness by their circumstance, and by the change. But I do not think it fair that he accused Armand and Nicolas of sharing a darkness, no. It seems a leap of logic that only someone as blinded by his own light and warmth as Lestat would make.

      I think, on the subject of his appearance and Lestat’s attention to it, I think we must remember that vampires see beauty in most everything. Nicolas may have been less than attractive, but, a vampire Lestat would not have noticed for two reasons. Firstly, his vampire eyes would blind him to the difference between beauty and conventions thereof, and secondly, mortal Lestat was so completely in love with our Nicolas long before he became a vampire.

      Wow, I am sorry you had to see that. I find that such sights always leave me with a pained state of shock that remains connected to me throughout the day.

      I wish I could see Nicki in the modern age, but when I think of it, I see him as manic, blinded by the light, the colour, his eyes ever shifting from one thing to the next. Or, I see him sullen, quiet, still, in this age where people, most people, have forsaken God and churchly goodness altogether.

      I think the two are just such opposites. I think Nicolas was always destined to be dark, but his darkness became ever more embittered and hateful in lieu of Lestat’s all-consuming light. And, likewise, Lestat shone ever brighter as Nicki receded into the hell that was his mind.

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:23 pm

        I think you are right by why would Lestat say Armand is MORE dark than Nicolas? Also I think it is made clear that while there are some physical similarities with the curly hair Louis is more conventionally attractive. Remember when they claimed that vampires always love their children? Yet Lestat was drawn away and repulsed by Nicolas as a vampire. Didn’t Nicolas want it though? Then again Armand also begged Marius for it. I think a human’s judgment is not much compared to an old powerful being so blaming them for “wanting it” is pretty unfair. I think you and everyone who brings up the character is very right to talk about destiny and fate. These concepts seem to have no place in the modern era but it seems Nicolas’ soul legacy is intimately connected with both darkness and fate, even a skeptic would be moved by his tale. Did you find it creepy when Lestat read his thoughts and they did not even take words or pictures? Thank you for your extremely intelligent and insightful responses once again! Well I felt myself feeling disturbed by seeing that poor man but I can’t let myself think of it too much because it would consume me, ya know?

        • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:24 pm

          meant BUT why

        • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:52 pm

          He also says that Louis seemed to be in the “very twin of Nicolas” in who he was as a person but also that Louis had drawn Lestat more powerfully than Nicolas ever had yet I think that is a lie. I think you are right that he loved Nicolas the most but he seems to not let himself think of Nicolas much like the last VC was narrated by Lestat but no mention of his dead friend at all. I think he constantly trying to undermine how powerfully he was connected to Nicolas so that he will not hurt. Then again only a single mention of Louis in Blood Canticle. I know darkness well as a mentally ill person so I know that all darkness is unique to the person who is one with it, but you are right saying Lestat is blinded by his own light and cannot understand the intricacies of darkness. What do you think of what I say?

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 5:44 am

            Meant not a single mention of Nicolas in BC. Apologies for all these typos, I mostly correct the ones that take the meaning away from what I write. Cruddy slow netbook. (lol yes I am blaming the machine and not my fingers)

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:12 am

            I think when he speaks of these two similar characters as twins, he is referring to facets of their personality. For instance, yes, Nicki is impulsive, and Louis thinks every action through. But then, if you consider, Nicolas was not always impulsive. For instance, when the issue arose of the two running away to Paris, Nicolas hesitated. And Louis shows moments of impulse, such as, when he kills the man who painted him.
            Lestat wallows in pain only for brief periods before pushing it down. I think the thought of Nicolas was too agonising for him. And later, the thought of Louis who had betrayed him – at least in his eyes he had – was just as painful, too much to bear.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:06 am

          Well, Armand is older by a handful of centuries. His darkness has had time to fester and take root in him, whereas Nicolas’ darkness is only just starting to peek out at this point. Look at how he changes so suddenly? From quiet refusal to participate in this new life that he actually begged for, to a manic embrace of it when he takes over the creative works of the theatre.
          I feel that Lestat’s repulsion by Nicki had nothing to do with his appearance, but more with the darkness of his soul. That wave of hatred and despair is what pushed Lestat away, as he almost never feels that darkness. And when he does, he runs from it instead of embracing it and hiding in it as Nicolas so often does.
          Certainly, if a human is in close proximity for a period of time, they will always want that power that the vampire has. But their reasons differ. Armand wanted it so that he could be with Marius and then Marius was taken from him. That is the root of his darkness. Whereas Nicolas wanted it out of spite. He hated that Lestat had everything, always getting his way. He wanted a piece of Lestat’s light and instead he got darkness.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:29 am

            Oh for sure I didn’t mean to say it was about his looks. I see Armand had time for his darkness to grow over the yrs but maybe there are old souls, maybe some souls are just like that, because the darkness Lestat saw overwhelmed him, it was a fathomless ocean and he was not even mad into a vampire. I say they were equally dark in different ways but of course I am ignorant and I felt like there was more to be said on Nicolas but I may be one of the few fans who thinks that way.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:33 am

            There’s a lot more that could be said for all of them. I wish I had seen more of SO many characters.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:23 am

            “Certainly, if a human is in close proximity for a period of time, they will always want that power that the vampire has.” Disagree with you there. I never would. Never, never, never. But I do think MOST humans would want it. Because they fear death, they believe there is nothingness in death and like the natural fear of all humans they fear being maimed and permanently disabled. A human can never truly be blamed for that “choice” of wanting it I believe, no human can truly understand what eternity is.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:34 am

            It is not always about the power. Sometimes it is about being with this all encompassing creature fully and completely. That is how I see it.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:24 am

            I don’t know, I think he was dark before he ever got turned. He said about the Inn that he knows that darkness but that Lestat was not ready for it, could not handle it.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:32 am

            Yes, but his darkness grew when he was turned.

        • Reply Deanne March 17, 2017 at 11:50 pm

          Very Late, but I want to comment anyway.

          It is very plainly stated that Nicolas is beautiful in TVL. I do not know where some of you are getting that he was not attractive. Lestat was ” repulsed” by the fact that Niki was a disaster of a vampire, not by his appearance. It is also obvious that Niki was the love of Lestat’s life, and that Louis is indeed just a replacement for the loss of Niki. Lestat has never gotten over Niki.

          • Deanne March 17, 2017 at 11:52 pm

            And yes, of course they were lovers, is that not obvious by the kissing and sleeping together? lol.

          • Carmen Dominique March 18, 2017 at 6:20 am

            This is where, in my opinion, things get complicated and people oftentimes misread the social norms of period writing. If there were any real instances, descriptions, of sexual intimacy between Nicki and Lestat, I would like for someone to quote them for me so I can reconsider my stance, but, as for Lestat kissing Nicolas and them spending enormous amounts of time together, that can very easily be interpreted as camaraderie between them. Men up to a certain point in history found themselves to be more attuned with one another than women, because women weren’t learned and had little to offer by way of conversation. I don’t believe that there is any grounds in the book itself to state outright that they were physically intimate on a sexual level, but, it seems like it could be the preference of the reader, which to believe.

          • Carmen Dominique March 18, 2017 at 6:17 am

            The “unattractiveness” may be insight into his person, not his appearance. Nicki was pretty off-putting as an individual, if more honest than Lestat could ever have been. But, yes ^^ he was definitely Lestat’s true love. Even Louis’ sorrowful qualities are a false echo of Nicolas.

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:25 pm

        Do you think they were lovers as in they had sex?

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:07 am

          I fully believe it is a possibility. They were very close.

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:47 pm

        Do you think maybe he became the actual violinist for the devil, as a kind of fate fulfilled when Armand called him the devils violinist. I know Lestat never saw him in hell even when he screamed his name, if he was in hell if there is such a place. There is just so much that could potentially have happened to his soul and fan fic just isn’t satisfying.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:09 am

          I don’t know. Personally, I believe that hell is reserved for those who are truly evil, not those who believe themselves to be. It is possible that in Nicolas’ heart, he was always asking for forgiveness, never truly being evil, because evil things cannot acknowledge that they are evil. They cannot take responsibility and thus ask forgiveness for it.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:39 am

            I believe that evil is taking an innocent life, most vamps have slipped up therefore they are tainted enough to deserve hell. They SHOULD suffer for ripping someone from the world! Its selfish and what disgusted me about them was how common even in the supposedly decent natured ones. It would not be difficult to find evil doers they have gifts. There are tons of rapist child molesters who deserve to be shot. Why do they never once in the chronicles specifically say they are going after rapists? If they feasted on rapists they would be full forever because men are never going to treat women like they are fully human. Never. Not unless men die out.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:53 am

            How very Akasha of you 😉

            Just teasing of course, I hear what you are saying. But, the vampire psyche is very much encased in the need for blood. I think, often the raging torrent of need overcomes the sense not to hurt the innocent. I do not think it is as simple as a decision, oftentimes. No choice. The blood dictates.
            But I do maintain that evil is not killing a man/woman/child. Evil is committing the aforementioned crime and being unable to acknowledge it as a sign of evil.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:04 am

            Misanthropy is very common these days and while I was one as a young teen I grew up and I find this cultural narrative childish and pathetic. It is en vouge now it seems. The worst is environmentalists who dehumanize humans beings to the point of calling them parasites upon the earth. Their hatred of humanity is abhorrent and antithetical to human rights. Yet they claim to care about humans rights! Lies! They go on and on about overpopulation and I feel uneasy about this rhetoric because no one asks to be born and I feel it could easily be used to justify needless suffering and it is already actually. They are against science based measures like technological advancements like birth control and abortion and GM foods so people don’t starve. They can’t have it both ways, they are against the true science solutions to world popluation. Just think if women were not pressured and forced into having kids all over the world if we all had access to birth control and abortion and education the birth rate would go down so far women in the developing world will walk a long ass time just to get some birth control. They obviously really want to have that control over themselves. How this relates is that I find a lot of the love of vampire novels is misanthropy and it bothers me and then just connected it to the most anti human movement ever environmentalism. It takes courage to love our race despite the flaws of some I don’t feel that taints us as a species as it does vampires because humans have no drive to take innocent human life vamps seem to do a good job of fucking that up and it feels really weak and loathsome to me on the part of the vampires in her stories and yes vegans will love to argue about meat but that is another issue. People seem to forget in this day and age animals to not have the self awareness of humans that is why death is miserable for us because it is humiliating but what animal is embarrassed of dying? None.

            Sorry to bore you with my personal moral convictions. I am not religious and never have been.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:41 am

            I wouldn’t call it weakness on the part of these vampires. Necessity more like. They have to. They have no alternative. They cling to the only alternatives they have, deciding who will live and who will die. When they choose to hone in on the cruel, it is already an indicator of a moral/ethical choice. I like that you say death is humiliating. I have always thought so. Which is another reason why the vampire leaves a sickening twist in my gut when I think of it. To have someone/something hold your life in their hands and know you cannot alter their decision, knowing that they will see you when your eyes are blank and your mouth slack… horrifying, yet it takes some of the pressure of living away. Knowing that the inevitable is just that.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:16 am

            I agree with you I did not sense any true inherent cruelty to him like Armand. Sorry I know you have a soft spot for Armand and I think he is dynamic and interesting but my favorite is Nicolas, he always drew me.

          • Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:35 am

            I do not think Armand’s cruelty is inherent. It was bred into him by his captors. He was always cheeky, mouthing off to everyone and shattering doors when they were locked against him, but his cruelty only came much later, borne of necessity.

          • rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:17 am

            No cruelty to him and no evil either at least not in the soaring sense but yes in the sense that he did take innocent human lives most likely.

  • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    ” I think, he had a lot of guilt over his dear Nicholas. I think he resented his own actions, and I think he would give anything for Nicki not to be dead.” Yes, very profound, you are right.

    I would love if Anne did some kind of closure because he too himself from the world so violently. Or not even closure just an update, on the fate of his soul or if he is still alive.

    I don’t understand why Anne chose to do the ghost thing in Merrick with Claudia because imo Nicolas was a better character but more underrated. I get that Claudia is infamous because she is from the first book which is the only most people have read but still! Why you do dis Anne? 😀

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 10, 2014 at 10:32 pm

      Hahaha! It probably has to do with that raging darkness in him. Very difficult for an author to control without being swept up. Did you ever find it depressing?

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm

        The story of Nicolas, depressing? No. I take pills for that. Wellbutrin, risperidal, elavil. 🙂

      • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:30 pm

        Maybe she hates that character.

        • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 1:35 am

          nvm I wrote this before you posted that it may be too depressing and you are probably right I just never considered it that way before.

      • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:50 am

        But then again, Armand is dark too and he has his own section AND his own book. Boo Anne.

        I have noticed on your reviews you say you hate reviewers and it made me laugh but I know the ones you meant. I love the VC but for some reason I love to read well written 1 stars reviews of them. It is all mostly personal taste they dislike it so much, they find her too “flowery”. I have seriously read some of the funniest stuff on Amazon and I know it pisses Anne off and fans like you and I do find them outrageous but for some reason I am not offended. I can laugh.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:43 am

          I really do hate them. They infuriate me. They have no context of the novels, the greater storyline, yet they pretend to have this all-encompassing knowledge and right to pass judgement, and they loathe it when they are, in turn, criticised.

          • rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:11 am

            I kind of love them. Am I a bad VC fan? Probably. I cannot help but be a bit revolted the vampires, no matter how beautiful they are physically.

          • Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:47 am

            I love them for the depth beneath their physicality. I have often thought, if faced with a VC vampire, that they might prove not to be as exquisite (by conventional standards) as they describe one another.

          • Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:10 am

            Actually I noticed the 1 star reviewers often get the plot totally wrong. And so short sighted.

  • Reply rozy March 10, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    This song reminds me of Nicolas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYB0jXUMkHw

    • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:46 am

      It is a violin instrumental. I find it sad. I love sad music. My mother says she doesn’t like sadness therefore it does not sound sad to her just beautiful. Funny how values influence perception.

      • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:45 am

        “Why must it wound him that the most despairing music is full of beauty…”

        • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:10 am

          At least he could actually hear the sadness, unlike my mom who hears what she wants to.

          • Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:47 am

            I think many mothers do…

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 1:27 am

    What do you think he would be like if he was reincarnated as a human in todays world? In Memnoch he said that people do not do it often and they have no memory but perhaps it would leave a feeling, a wound on the soul, an aching, a longing.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 7:13 am

      I’m sure that any person that had such a deep connection to another, reincarnated, would try to find that person without knowing why. Nicolas would eventually find Lestat again. Who knows, perhaps we’ll see him in the new novel?

      • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:35 am

        OMG that would be the best premise for a novel! They would probably be DEEPLY disturbed aka mentally ill. Good thing they have happy pills nowadays. Without my risperidal I do not think rationally anymore. Probably why I connect with this character. Maybe the person who has Nicolas’ soul would be poor like Nicolas believed he deserved. I find it hard to believe he is just gone into complete nothingness because he was so… special. Surely those special souls make an impact on the cosmos. An imprint. The chronicles mention reincarnation a few times like Pandora was likely a reincarnated male vampire and briefly with David in TotBT and of course with Memnoch. It would be cool to see it covered more because so many of their kind died from Akasha the books make it sound like their population came down to pretty low.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:59 am

          Yes, but then, only those of least importance really were killed. Except for dear Eric. I was saddened by that.

          • rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:09 am

            Disagree. I don’t agree with a hierarchy of importance of life… not that bloodsucking dead things are living but you know- existence. It always struck me as hypocritical that the vampires would alternate between describing humans as grotesque and saying they are all beautiful. I think as much as some of them keep up with human happenings they are very out of touch.

          • Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:49 am

            I will need to find where they describe humans as grotesque. Alien, perhaps. But it never struck me that they might be repulsed.

          • Hook in Mouth May 15, 2014 at 1:01 am

            “Hundreds of greasy faces peered back at me from the gloom. Shabby wigs and paste jewels and filthy finery, skin like water flowing over crooked bones.” (The Vampire Lestat) That is where he describes humans as freakish.

          • Hook in Mouth May 15, 2014 at 1:21 am

            “the taunts that greeted me were spasms and eruptions, and quite plainly behind every face in the house was a grinning skull.”

            “every fluttering soul sucking the air”

            “A great horde of jangling skeletons snared in flesh and rags, that’s what they were”

            It just sounds a vulgar depiction of mortality but then again maybe mortality is vulgar. We do rot- not graceful at all.

      • Reply Hook in Mouth May 19, 2014 at 6:33 am

        Anne said he may be in future Chronicles if you read the screencap I posted. ^^

      • Reply Hook in Mouth May 23, 2014 at 12:48 am

        TVL, P.328- “He (Nicolas) talks often of old religious customs, of ritual fires, of the passage into new realms of being.”

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:35 am

    Do you agree with people that say Nicolas was doomed from the start?

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:52 am

      Yes. I think so. But, I think he was doomed from the moment he shared a meal with Lestat.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:58 am

        His story makes one entertain fate. In this age that is not small feat.

        • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:58 am

          Of course I mean the idea of fate.

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 7:45 am

    Yes all the characters needed more time to talk but Nicolas never got justice but I respect that Lestat could not bear to dwell on it, he laid the bare bones enough so we saw the picture of him through Lestats eyes. Now hearing it in Nicolas’ voice- that would be something else. He was not mentioned in BC and I doubt he will be brought up again except maybe as Lestat fondly called Nicolas his beloved because something reminded Lestat of Nicolas. I think that happens to him often because every single book narrated by Lestat except for the last one but to be fair in the last one he barely mentioned even Louis and Marius, I believe he called Louis a coward but I don’t have the book so you can always check.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:47 am

      I shall check that for you when I have it in front of me. I know Lestat has a tendency to flip from one social view of his loves to another very quickly. It is a sign of his temper. And he has always had something of a deeply passionate hatred entwined with his love for Louis.
      …The man did assist a crazy little girl to try and roast him alive after all 😉

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:56 am

        Right on mam. I cannot smile or joke about a creatures suffering, not even a killer of so many innocent souls. I wish I could have it in me to wish hate upon, or have the urge to kill the evil but I cannot. I know there is a difference between committing evil and being evil but how can a vampire not be evil, unless the only drink from evil doers but they all seem to suck at that despite apparently being good at everything and oh so perfect.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:29 am

          It really does not sound to me as if you are fond of these ‘monsters’ as you call them. The concept of Anne Rice’s Vampire Chronicles was to bring out the humanity in the vampire. To explain their behaviour in their own words. I find that they do so quite well. I can understand their reasoning behind their actions, their behaviour completely. But, that is not to say that anyone else should as well. I respect your opinion on this matter.

          • rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:45 am

            Thank you for your respect. I did like them but like does not equal their goodness.

          • Hook in Mouth May 22, 2014 at 5:59 am

            Actually I am fond of them but it makes me angry at myself.

      • Reply Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:19 am

        Did you check? Yes I remember in Blood Canticle he was into Catholicism of course and before that he said he was interested in communism.

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:28 am

    Do you really believe Nicolas wanted to become a vampire out of pure spite think there was more than that.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:32 am

      I do. I mean spite in the sense that he could never give credit to Lestat for the things he accomplished. He always wanted the world to favour him, the way it did his lover.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:53 am

        Didn’t he say he did not want success? Where are you getting that from because I didn’t see it.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:31 am

          Forgive me, I may be catching the wrong end of the thread here, but, are we referring to Nicky’s anger that Lestat achieves good things and he does not? In that case: He SAYS he does not want success, but his actions suggest otherwise. His jealousy is apparent when Lestat takes the stage, and again when Lestat is made a vampire and he learns the secret and what it means.

          • Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:21 am

            Yes that is what I was referring to.

      • Reply Hook in Mouth May 22, 2014 at 6:04 am

        idk if I agree that he didn’t give Lestat credit-
        “I simply mean that you think things are possible which aren’t possible. At least not for the rest of us. Like killing the wolves…”
        “If you’d set out to play the violin, you’d probably be playing for the Court by now.”

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:32 am

    What is Nicolas was trapped in a realm that was dark as himself in death. I feel like even though he said he did not believe in good and evil that he always had a deep belief of both good and evil and concrete things, not as some mere constructs of humanity so that is where he needed his Xtian god.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:26 am

      Yes indeed. I think he was definitely more of a believer than he led others to think of him.

  • Reply rozy March 11, 2014 at 8:34 am

    If you really loved someone wouldn’t you force them to live? Why not keep him in chains, imprisoned? Why did Armand agree to let him kill himself?

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 11, 2014 at 9:25 am

      I still think what Armand told Lestat may have been something of a lie. Not enough evidence to support that Nicki killed himself. Or that he is dead at all.

      • Reply A. March 11, 2014 at 11:25 am

        What? Armand didn’t love Nicolas. Even if he was going into the fire, I think the better question would be, why would he stop him?

        That aside, there are many reasons why if you love someone you would not force them to live in a state of suffering.

        Also… I think it is possible Nicolas is alive and well and somewhere in Texas.

        • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 5:55 am

          What makes you think that? There is nothing from the books to suggest this. I believe it was said Armand was affectionate to him? I shouldn’t have used the word love- it is a strong word. Why SHOULDN’T he stop him? You force someone to live in suffering because they are not in their right of mind but may not always be the case, so letting that them die without trying to stop it even in vain is an act of hatred. I am in favour of assisted suicide but Nicolas suffered no mortal maladies so there is no reason, no justification for letting him die. Choice means nothing when you aren’t sane.

          • Hook in Mouth May 23, 2014 at 12:52 am

            “Our Oldest Friend, in particular, bears him great affection.”

        • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 5:57 am

          I did not say Armand loved him. Lestat should have forced him to live but that is just my opinion. Its was his fledgling, his responsibility. For nothing to suggest this I meant the Texas thing.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:51 am

        I thought Eleni wrote that letter. Armand is so self obsessed I don’t know if he could even take the time off adoring himself to write. 😛

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:31 am

          You will need to reference for me where you see that he is more self-obsessed than any of the others. If anything, I would say he is self-depreciating.

          • Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:24 am

            That was hyperbole, he is just smug.

  • Reply A. March 11, 2014 at 10:45 am

    I have a comment on the nature of darkness, since I keep seeing that question raised again and again.
    Whether it has slinked past your door, haunted your hallways in anguish and anger, followed you through dreams, darkness, evil, its exact nature eludes the philosopher like the quest to identify the nature of Love.
    Is it chemistry, is it nurtured, can it exist as an Ideal in this world?

    Ideals, by definition, do not exist here. Still, though for many there seems to be the need for some symbolic evil to help shape thoughts about it, I say for a moment, we should consider the definitions. In Anne Rice’s writing about the vampires, the question of good and evil seems at the core, but even Lestat de Lioncourt recognizes, “Evil is a point of view.” Conversely he turns around and says he hunts the evil doer. So he has a definition for it, himself. His point of view tells him what is good or evil, or he would hunt as he suggested Louis do, indiscriminately, killing as God seems to do, without care as to whom.

    Humans call things Evil which do not serve humans. Keep in mind though, one could argue that humanity is not intrinsically good either. Most people will agree that people are capable of both good and evil, and humanity exists squarely between the extremes, even if the extremes themselves seem subject to interpretation. But Humanity’s self-serving does not always serve the best interest of anyone or anything around it. Self-preservation does not deserve to be called the ultimate good.
    I suggest for the sake of discussion here that the extremes, evil, and good, are nonexistent as pure forms, they are subjectively defined by individuals and cultures, and if we want to get to the core of it, we have to examine how it affects us rather than blaming devils or angels, or saying any particular action or person is intrinsically good or evil.

    We could argue endlessly on the nature of evil, but most people will recognize and agree about whether something is cruel or generous. And having sympathy for people other than yourself, or other than your species, or in some broad scale for the Earth is generous. Giving for the sake of the joy it brings you to see someone else flourish, while it does serve human species to look out for other humans, or even things in proximity to humanity, true generosity born out of love for the sake of others could be argued is favorable. Cruelty can sometimes serve one person, at the expense of others, but most people recognize that a person does not exist in a vacuum. People need other people, and friendships, bonds, love between others and ourselves bring greater joys, and in the long run, reap greater rewards in the form of returned love and affection, and we all live on this planet surrounded by other living things.

    Not everyone can experience this connection with others. It has been shown that there are genes that predispose people to be able to make these connections with others and in some cases where a child is reared without the proper generous and caring environment, the child can evolve into an adult without these functions. Whether this behavior is born out of nature or nurture isn’t really the key to my point though it bears saying where cruelty usually originates, because when we understand it, it is easier to answer it in a meaningful way in others and in ourselves.

    Anyone can do cruel things, it is born out of a selfishness which is part of self preservation that is an over-response to a feeling of vulnerability. When someone feels powerless to protect themselves, they will often practice cruelty, acting only in their own interest, even bringing about suffering of others to make themselves feel powerful or safe. Fear for ones self can compel someone to do very crazy, cruel things, but given the right circumstances, these same people feel remorse and can look back on these actions wanting to do better in the future. They can care about other people, and experience love.

    Some people are simply cruel by nature. For them, self examination is either something they feel no need for, or something they fear will reveal even more weakness, and therefore they are afraid to do. They may seem to, or actually lack ANY concern or feeling for other people. Their selfishness is just their nature, they can’t be anything but selfish, because to them, they are the only people in the world who matter. They can’t rejoice in another person’s happiness, they can’t love, they can’t actually care, because they are too preoccupied with their own needs or desires.

    The source then boils down to these two things: They’re either afraid, which is usually the case, or they are a psychopath, which is just an unfortunate creature who will never actually be capable of experiencing real love, whose actions are cruel because other people just don’t matter and it’s vaguely amusing for them to watch how others react to negative stimuli.
    Now despite what was said of Armand in the musical, Lestat… It does not take more than a glance to notice that Armand was not born selfish and cruel. He is not empty, he is capable of love, and he does selfless things to help others. He loved his family, he loved Marius, and even Lestat, and when circumstance became desperate and he did terrible things out of fear and desperation, he came out of that cruel time in his life still seeing the good in others and wanting to help them.

    Nicolas seemed at first to share a connection with Lestat, his ‘golden moments’, the gifts of furs he offered, but he did not seem to care about the suffering that the witches from the ‘witches place’ may have had, and when it came their time together in Paris, Nicolas did not seem to take any joy in the success Lestat was having. He could only see his own failure, his own fears of not measuring up, he had no generosity for Lestat.

    Maybe he was not intrinsically selfish by his physical nature, but clearly he was insane with gloom and self loathing, jealousy for Lestat, and its origins probably lay in his upbringing, particularly his father, who never seemed to show the child any emotional support. He may have been intrinsically selfish by nurture, not nature, but even so it was not something he managed to overcome, and it became part of who he was. His fears and self loathing crushed him when he became a vampire, and he sank further and further into his frantic mania to dig himself out of a hell of his own creation, never even noticing the people around him.

    Lestat left him with Armand because Lestat could not connect with Nicolas anymore, and Lestat’s own needs to find some goodness in what he had become outweighed any connection he may have had with him before he had given him the dark gift. It was in hope to give him some goodness from it that he finally gave into Nicolas, even though obviously it turned out horribly. As to why he would say Nicolas was never as dark as Armand, I think it may have been a jibe at Armand, rather than a careful observation. Then again, when he met Armand, the coven leader was still kind of deep in the unpleasant and darkest time of his life, so it could well have seemed that way to Lestat.

    That said, the question of good and evil, the meaning of it in relevance between heaven and hell, it becomes so much religious conjecture, an attempt to control others with dogma, out of a desire for power, out of fear which, I think we may be able to see I am saying, is the basis of most cruelty.

    If in Lestat’s experiences in Memnoch, Nicolas was not in Heaven or in Hell, it may be that he was on Earth, either in another lifetime, in a vampiric existence having not really gone into the fire, Limbo, or … stretching the mind just a little bit here- maybe there are other places in the afterlife to be than Heaven, Hell, Limbo or any other traditional Earthly understanding of what happens when someone dies. Maybe he was just in one of many somewhere else places to be that people don’t realize are possibilities! Or… maybe Lestat was just dreaming, as it has been posed that it all may have been a very subjective experience for the Brat Prince; one in which Heaven and Hell, Angels and the Devil really exist as if they are places and people, and can step on your eyeball, regardless of having it back in your skull when you come out of your ‘dream’.

    • Reply Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:41 am

      How can someone be selfish but self loathing at the same time?

    • Reply Rozyve May 14, 2014 at 10:47 am

      How is that a jibe? I had interpreted it as deep observation but that is interesting. Look I am sorry to be an ass to you in my replies, sometimes I look for a rise out of people for entertainment. I admit it. Where are you getting that his eye was actually in the socket when he came from Hell? You are really Armand.

    • Reply Hook in Mouth May 14, 2014 at 11:04 am

      You’re right self preservation can be bad, I do think its important to protect endangered species but I hate on the environmental movement due to its misogyny and a lot of pseudoscience causes like trying to halt Golden Rice. I’m all for planting trees and saving creatures from extinction. In case you think this comment is irrelevant is has to do with another comment I made here where I hated on environmentalism. I think there are probably many afterlives and it would be pretty horrible if the buybull was right. What a loathsome God that Lestat described. I don’t know if religion is the ultimate force of evil though, one could easily argue its male rapism. I don’t know if you’re mocking me or not bc lots of ppl have said there is probably lots of afterlives. Did Lestat mourn the death of Nicolas? I thought your comments were really insightful A. and I liked it, even if it hurt me, for some reason.

    • Reply Hook in Mouth May 23, 2014 at 9:26 am

      “particularly his father, who never seemed to show the child any emotional support.”

      “He wore his fancy clothes again and his old jewels from the time he had been his father’s favorite son.”

      Why would a father not give his favorite son emotional support? I don’t think being mentally ill makes someone selfish, it just means they are drowning in sorrow and other negative emotions.

  • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Probably the most despicable thing about the vampire is their smugness that everyone would want to be like them. I am disabled and I once thought I would give anything not to be until I read the VC. Better to just die in all death’s humiliation than be a creature so likely to commit evil. I believe in the vampires. This world is simply too cruel not to have such creatures. Even the most modern atheist skeptic should see this. Humans will always make excuses and call it logic- I give the misanthropes that.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:33 am

      I maintain my previous view on the nature of evil. A view, I will admit, I picked up while reading this particular body of work.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:34 am

        I respect this. Don’t worry I am not trying to convert you. 😉

  • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:03 am

    “Sometimes it is about being with this all encompassing creature fully and completely.” Well then that adds to my empathy for this character, to think so poorly of ones self.

    • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:11 am

      Oh I thought you meant this about why Nicolas was spiteful. So that is why humans want to be vampires? I fail to see how becoming a vampire=becoming a more complete creature. I am not trying to be an ass Carmen, but I honestly do not understand and probably never will. I just see it as vanity one should be embarrassed of if they ever entertained the notion.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:19 am

        Seriously, my fellow human beings, I get the modern vampire craze, you see it as a metaphor for human struggle, but for the many humans that want to be vampires? Get yourself. Dear gods.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 9:34 am

          The vampire ‘craze,’ and certainly for most fans of the VC like myself, is not modern. The novels speak to humanity on a deep resounding level.

          • Hook in Mouth May 14, 2014 at 10:55 am

            Fair enough, humanity has always liked the idea of the vampire.

      • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:24 am

        I understand that. What I am saying to you is that a vampire is a ‘romantic’ creature in the sense that it is a construct of what humans desire. It is beautiful, dangerous, and it exerts control. Many people see that as a safe place to be, by that creature’s side. Security engenders love, or ideals of love. A desperate love that leads to a person being unable to entertain notions of losing that creature.

        • Reply Hook in Mouth May 14, 2014 at 11:05 am

          I thought love was powerful- not desperate. *confused*

    • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 7:26 am

      Why should being with a man you love, entirely and completely, and now even more because that creature is all-encompassing, be something to feel pity for? How does it lead to thinking poorly of one’s self?

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:35 am

        Because if one thinks that they cannot be complete unless they are a vampire, that is pitiful. When Lestat in his new vampire eyes saw humans are incomplete, I felt pity for him. I don’t expect others to understand how I feel.

        • Reply Carmen Dominique March 12, 2014 at 9:32 am

          I did not say that people believe themselves to be incomplete unless they are a vampire. That is something I found in Twilight, however, that the series was driven towards Bella’s transformation into a vampire as being the last part of her to make a whole.

          • Hook in Mouth May 14, 2014 at 10:50 am

            Yeah that was a huge theme in Twilight. It was only a little gust of wind in the VC and I can’t remember the passages saying this.

      • Reply rozy March 12, 2014 at 7:40 am

        I find the view that humans are incomplete compared to vampires as pitiful. When Lestat said this of his new vampire way of seeing humans, I felt only pity. It showed to me how short it takes them to be detached from their humanity. I am not saying whether this is bad or good.

  • Reply Hold the Heathen Hammer High April 16, 2014 at 4:32 am

    I think you are very insightful on the characters. Great posts! Anne Rice shares them on her page.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique April 16, 2014 at 7:04 am

      Thanks 🙂

  • Reply Rozyve May 2, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Just what I posted on Anne Rice’s wall and she responded to me. I asked her if Nicolas is still alive and she said no he definitely died in TVL so we can put that theory to rest.

    • Reply Rozyve May 2, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      I would post a screencap but I can’t on this comment system. I think the disqus system is better than wordpress commenting. Do you have an email I could send the attachment to if you want to see it?

  • Reply Hook in Mouth May 14, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Sorry I keep changing my name I just like to change it up often.

  • Reply The Light's Bane June 5, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    I liked this character the most because he reminds me of my favourite musician named Jon Nodveidt.

  • Reply Kqarla June 8, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    For all his darkness and his madness, I love Nicki’s character. I have always harbored this strong feeling that Nicki needs saving and that one should not give up on him. It’s sad and utterly heartbreaking the way Nicki descended and succumbed to such pain and darkness and negativity. But for all his hatred or jealousy or enviousness of Lestat, I would like to hold on to the thought that Nicki loved Lestat and that’s something no one could ever take away from them.

    As for Armand, personally, I never see the darkness in him. To me, he was always such marvel, such a sight to behold. Or you could say I’d rather bask in what good there is than in what evil lurks in Armand.

    I just hope that somehow, Armand tried to be nice and comforting towards Nicki because, who knows, maybe he could’ve drawn Nicki out of that madness, made Nicki take a turn for something better, seeing as Armand’s own sad past makes him rather credible to sympathize with Nicki’s pessimism.

    Really, these are just my thoughts and hopes for these characters. 🙂

    Sad that according to previous comments above, Anne Rice herself made no further comments regarding Nicki. I wish that the sympathy Nicki’s fans harbored for his character would reach the author so she will see just how much impact Nicki had made on readers even if he was just a minor character. And since we’re all waiting for Prince Lestat to come out, I do hope that there’ll be something more about Nicki there to shed some more light on him. (Although if I could, I’d probably go as far as hope that Nicki is still actually alive somewhere, somehow.)

    And lastly, I just recently stumbled across this site and, god, I’m so happy the comments are still active. Also, this character analysis of Nicki is one, if not the best, of the analyses I’ve read about him. This draws out a lot of the emotions and darkness he was pent up with compared to other analyses that tend to dismiss Nicki’s madness without giving it a harder, closer look.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique June 8, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      Oh, Kqarla, this is an awesome comment. I agree with you on all accounts. Nikki being broken, him still loving Lestat regardless of his envy and darkness. I agree that Armand is a marvel, a true delight of a character and, honestly, my favourite.

      And thank you for the kind comment on the website. yes, it is still very active, I am working on an article regarding Mona which I hope to have finished this week.

      • Reply The Light's Bane July 10, 2014 at 12:07 pm

        A Mona article!? For real? I don’t know what part of this site to click to see the new posts.

        Hey Kqarla, I feel the same way about wanting him in the new books. Anne Rice said he is definitely dead though so stop hoping, he would have to be a ghost like Claudia or some other supernatural chthonic thing.

        I’m glad you are happy to see this active because I was feeling like my comments were annoying to the owner of this site. I hope not but if I am just tell me.

        Here are some links to questions Anne answered on him.

        https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10152500541575452

        https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10152372193065452

        https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10152284832870452

        https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1416772851914911&set=o.66435815451&type=1&theater

        • Reply Carmen Dominique July 13, 2014 at 12:02 pm

          I’ll get back to you on that. If you go to our Facebook fanpage, I always update new articles on there with a link.

          • The Light's Bane July 13, 2014 at 10:26 pm

            Get back to me on what?

      • Reply The Light's Bane July 10, 2014 at 12:21 pm

        Never mind I followed your site.
        I also agree, Nicolas could have never stopped loving Lestat. No matter what acid dripped off his tongue or how far he fell into the abyss within himself. Not even death could make him stop loving Lestat, even if all the memories faded into a general feeling through the haze of death he would never lose the knowingness of a connection with a soul who touched him so deeply, beyond his bourgeois snobbery and flashiness. Or how much he wished he could take back the last impression Lestat ever had of him and spare him the pain of mourning. He never saw beyond the black veil surrounding his soul, that anyone would miss him. Just speculation of course.

    • Reply The Light's Bane July 21, 2014 at 8:30 am

      Kqarla please come back to this virtual shrine, your passion lights up this comment section. I think your faith in Armand being nice to Nicolas is ill conceived, you do remember Armand tortured him…?

      • Reply Kqarla August 21, 2014 at 4:33 pm

        Sorry it took me quite a while to get back on this site. I’ve been quite busy working on my university thesis. However, right now, I have enough time to come back and give the discussion of our beloved vampires my undivided attention.

        Regarding Light’s Bane’s comment that “(my) faith in Armand being nice to Nicolas is ill conceived”, I would like to point out that in my previous comment, I said “I just hope that somehow, Armand tried to be nice and comforting towards Nicki…”.

        Hope. Hope guides me, it is what comforts me. Of course, Armand tortured Nicki. That’s there and we can’t change that. But looking back on Armand’s and Nicki’s backgrounds, I just don’t want to throw away the hope that Armand’s own sad past could’ve made him sympathetic towards another suffering, tortured soul. Of course, I do not have control over Armand or anyone but there goes my wishful thinking.

        On a side note, it’s more of sympathy than empathy but just the same, I feel a deep pity, a deep concern for suffering humanity — even if the sufferer in question is not human. This goes for both Armand and Nicki.

        As for Nicki, he’s the one that needs saving the most. And I may not be able to save him but I want him to know I believe he’s worth saving. 🙂

        • Reply The Light's Bane September 3, 2014 at 4:33 am

          He will never know anything now though, he’s dead. It is clear to me from what Armand says to Lestat after A tells L his story that Armand was set to destroy Nicolas from the very beginning. He projected this onto Lestat telling L what he really wants is for N to be destroyed when CLEARLY it was Armand who wanted N destroyed from the very beginning due to PETTY JEALOUSY of N’s importance to Lestat. Of course one would hope A would have sympathy for N bc of having suffered himself but A was still trapped in a deleterious mental state and was clearly not thinking rationally or else he wouldn’t be leading a cult.

          • Kqarla September 7, 2014 at 2:38 pm

            I’d dare say nothing is ever final. 🙂 Who would’ve thought that after all these years, the Vampire Chronicles would rise again with the debut of Prince Lestat?

        • Reply The Light's Bane September 4, 2014 at 3:39 am

          Is your thesis on the Vampire Chronicles? 😛

          • Kqarla September 7, 2014 at 2:17 pm

            Unfortunately, no. Although I’d rather work on anything VC-related. Haha.

  • Reply The Light's Bane July 10, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Carmen does great character analysis, yes. It’s such a valuable thing to be able to analyse cultural phenomena. There is hardly any cultural analysis of my country- Canada, which is annoying because there is a wealth of it for American culture.

    Carmen, I was wondering what you feel about the popular sentiment that humanities are useless and the only worthwhile things are science and technical trades. It makes me sad people I know are belittled for choosing to take something like philosophy in uni instead of chemistry. When we devalue the humanities we devalue our humanity.

    • Reply Carmen Dominique July 13, 2014 at 12:01 pm

      Hah! Well, you see, I studied in the humanities myself, so my opinion is a little skewed. But, of course, without the humanities, we would not have writers and editors, philosophers, students of the modern film, art, and drama… I approve of the humanities, but, of course, we don’t earn as much as we would like.

      • Reply The Light's Bane July 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm

        Humanities not having the respect it deserves is probably why it doesn’t get much funding. Which is sad. I think the state should support artists, no more starving artists! Artists give so much to human society and to be struggling to survive in return is just morally wrong. I think Sweden has good support for artists but I have to look into it.

        • Reply Kqarla September 7, 2014 at 2:27 pm

          I can related to this. My major is also in the field of humanities. Sometimes, I meet students from the fields of (Applied) Sciences and Engineering and, although I acknowledge that everyone’s entitled to their own opinions, I end up taking some offense when they comment that Arts aren’t as *important* as the fields they’re working in. Sometimes, they also say that there is no money in Art-related fields. Perhaps, there is a credible background to that statement but I prefer to differ. It’s not always about the money. Art, and the appreciation of it, makes a difference. It makes life even more worth living.

          • The Light's Bane September 9, 2014 at 9:14 am

            Thanks for weighing in. Science majors can be pretty ignorant to humanities majors. It’s like they can’t keep their mouth shut on saying what you dedicated your life to is useless. Often, scientists research something and it turns out to be unsuccessful even though it seemed hopeful at first. Does that mean medical research is worthless? Art is superior in that it will always have meaning and material form, the same is not true for science. They may learn something from experiments that fail to yield the desired results but this may never translate to anything material. Art always has material form even though it can be spiritual and transcendent. Art is a conduit.

  • Reply The Light's Bane July 11, 2014 at 2:45 am

    I think Nicolas would have liked these lyrics: http://www.metrolyrics.com/nights-blood-lyrics-dissection.html

  • Reply The Light's Bane August 7, 2014 at 8:23 am

    “‘All a misunderstanding, my love,’ he said. Acid on the tongue. ‘It was to hurt others, don’t you see, the violin playing, to anger them, to secure for me an island where they could not rule. They would watch my ruin, unable to do anything about it.’”
    Truly Nicolas was born in the wrong era. He would be worshiped as a true kvlt black metal god today. Lots of black metal is written to inspire others to suicide, to inspire aggression, pain, bitterness, misanthropy and hurt. Perhaps he was reborn as an early 90s black metal artist. Now that would be a good story…

    • Reply Kqarla August 21, 2014 at 4:57 pm

      I remember starting to play the violin a couple of years before I got to reading the Vampire Chronicles. Knowing that Nicki himself was the Divine Violinist drew me further to him. Mind you, I am nowhere near as good as Nicki when it comes to playing the violin but I would give so much just to hear him play and let him know that his music is appreciated for his sheer talent and true brilliance. Music is truly an Art that could be used in a myriad of ways to achieve various purposes. I’d leave it at this.

      Somehow, I think there comes a point in time when we think we were born in the wrong era or that perhaps, we could’ve been so much better had we been born in a different time period. I personally wanted to have been around during the Renaissance. Or during the reign of France’s Sun King. But, for better or worse, here we are. Here I am, not in the 17th century, but in the 21st.

      I could’ve envied Nicki – had he continued to live – because he would’ve had the chance to experience both the wonders and horrors of varied eras and live to tell the tale.

      However, I do agree that it would have been interesting to see which path Nicki would take had he been alive today. And yes, that would truly make for a very interesting plot. (So let’s continue hoping that Anne Rice would put something of Nicki in future books and who knows what will be revealed to us from there?) 😉

      • Reply The Light's Bane September 3, 2014 at 4:26 am

        Glad to see you commenting here again.

        I think it would suck to live in the past as a woman or even just someone who needs medical care but I do see how different eras have such different philosophies to define and guide them and the standard outfit of jeans and t-shirts these days just isn’t as ornate and romantic as what they wore in the past.

        There was also more wild untouched land. It’s a shame the bigwigs are so cheap they will not invest infrastructure and build up like Vancouver does instead of allowing urban sprawl to steal beautiful natural places. So I understand why you would want to be born in a different era even if I would not want that for myself.

        How could you see him being in future books? What situation would have to be created? All I can really see is a ghost like Claudia though I have thrown around the idea of reincarnation it would be hard to do that with a character you killed.

        It is easier to have reincarnation as a back story like Pandora’s back story. Not that Anne Rice is not a writer who can take on challenges. Humanizing vampires as she has done was a challenge she surmounted.

        You are right about music serving so many purposes. I think of National Socialist Black Metal which preaches Nazism and Black Metal in general with its anti-Xtian themes. Nicolas’s music allowed him to bear his soul, even if he was ignorant to its beauty and effects on others.

        • Reply Kqarla September 7, 2014 at 2:59 pm

          Looking back on the links you’ve posted previously, I’ve encircled and underlined some statements from Ms. Anne Rice herself:

          http://imgur.com/wL6tqW8
          http://imgur.com/21XaDBy

          These statements give me hope. Of course, there’s no telling whether Nicki will or will not be in future books as of this time. But “who knows” and “so far” may hint that Ms. Rice is not closing Nicki’s story entirely in the sense that one day, she may just consider adding more with regards to the matter of Nicki’s death, pretend-death, new form (as a ghost, etc.), or current status (reincarnated, etc.).

          You could say I’m reading into those comments too much, or maybe I’m keeping my hopes way up high. Honestly, I live on hope. Haha. Whatever will come to us in future books may either make or break this hope but I’m keeping my fingers crossed til then. 🙂

          • The Light's Bane December 26, 2014 at 6:33 am

            So what did u think of PL? Your optimism touches me.

  • Reply The Light's Bane September 3, 2014 at 4:35 am

    Maybe Nicolas had Self-defeating personality disorder. The “self undoing” masochism particularly rings true. If anyone else sees it, tell me.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defeating_personality_disorder
    Arm chair diagnosing VC characters is always fun. ^^

  • Reply The Light's Bane September 9, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Some people have actually done academic work on the VC. Which is pretty cool. I don’t know any links to any of it though. Some psychologist has probably psych analyzed all the characters.

  • Reply The Light's Bane September 17, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    I mean human beings are the conduit for art, which expresses things beyond humanity but can still come through us.

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